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i think both sides are looking at if fiscal cliff right now and saying, well, we could go over this thing. it wouldn't be the end of the world and that's a very different view in washington than it is on wall street. i can tell you that. >> eamon, thanks. i know you've got a long day ahead, a long afternoon as well. eamon javers in washington. >> isn't it unbelievable. you have this huge, looming problem, i'll wait until later this afternoon to deal with it. >> and the whole sequester was a way to deal with this later. and corker, i think, on some of the morning shows this morning, senator corker said the worst case today would be to set up another later deadline that would keep the hard questions -- >> and i think a lot of this is so abstract, but if those milk prices go up for people around this country, that's going to be the thing that gets people really animated. >> that and payroll taxes, if they go up, that will hit a lot of americans across the board. >> interesting to see a lot of the stocks today that have exposure to dairy futures, whether it's an hsy, who knows? i haven't even
i think both sides are looking at if fiscal cliff right now and saying, well, we could go over this thing. it wouldn't be the end of the world and that's a very different view in washington than it is on wall street. i can tell you that. >> eamon, thanks. i know you've got a long day ahead, a long afternoon as well. eamon javers in washington. >> isn't it unbelievable. you have this huge, looming problem, i'll wait until later this afternoon to deal with it. >> and the whole...
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do you have any plans for fiscal cliff night? let's get to the "fast money" halftime. >>> all right, carl. thanks so much. welcome to the "halftime" show. four hours to go until the close. the dow has taken a turn to the negative. down 33 points. as you can see, the s&p and the nasdaq are following suit. here's what we're following on the "halftime" show. lucky '13. which stocks look like a good bet. >>> cliff countdown. just three trading days remain for lawmakers to reach a deal and avoid going over the cliff. will they rise above and what happens to the markets if they don't? first our top story, shopped out. new data showing holiday sales grew at the slowest pace in four years. what does it all say about the health of the nation's retailers and the money you have in their stock? our traders for the hour are peat and john negarian and steven weiss. pete, begin with you, 16 of the 17 worst performers in the s&p today are retailers. >> understandably so. the expectations were so high. a lot of the analysts were looking for a bum
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"power lunch" starts right now. >> merry cliff-mas, everybody. five days left and still no deal. president obama cutting short his annual vacation in hawaii to deal with the fiscal cliff. no sight of congressional leaders. they're not in town. investors getting a little bit nervous. will congress get it together in time? no talks that we know of are imminent. it was by at least one measure, the weakest holiday retail sales growth since the financial crisis back in 2008, but could a post-christmas holiday sales bounce be around the corner? >>> and what a year it has been for tech. gadgets and gizmos. apple, facebook, microsoft all have big news. will 2013 be a lucky year for the sector? which tech titans might lead the new trends? simon hobbs is in at the new york stock exchange. >> good afternoon. when president obama arrives back in d.c., can he prevent america falling over the fiscal cliff? house republicans haven't yet called their members back to washington. our chief political correspondent, john harwood, is with us. john, this feels very much like it might be the calm befor
"power lunch" starts right now. >> merry cliff-mas, everybody. five days left and still no deal. president obama cutting short his annual vacation in hawaii to deal with the fiscal cliff. no sight of congressional leaders. they're not in town. investors getting a little bit nervous. will congress get it together in time? no talks that we know of are imminent. it was by at least one measure, the weakest holiday retail sales growth since the financial crisis back in 2008, but...
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still no fix on the fiscal cliff, but there are developments right now, as you know. brian just mentioning there. various congressional leaders and the president getting set to meet at the white house this hour to work on last-minute negotiations all in an effort to avoid those series of tax increases and spending cuts due to take effect next year. what we hear is the senate leaders are there. speaker boehner and minority leader nancy pelosi have yet to arrive, but now we're showing you live pictures. maybe somebody is going to get out of that car, and we'll see if any of the other leaders will be heading to the white house. this is speaker boehner right now heading into the white house. we'll keep you updated as this hour progresses here. >> indeed, meantime, more red arrows here on wall street as investors are awaiting for any signs of progress from the white house meeting which is about to get under way. right now we're sitting smack on 13,000. we've clawed back from being below that earlier on today. the nasdaq has also moved to the downside by half a percent as w
still no fix on the fiscal cliff, but there are developments right now, as you know. brian just mentioning there. various congressional leaders and the president getting set to meet at the white house this hour to work on last-minute negotiations all in an effort to avoid those series of tax increases and spending cuts due to take effect next year. what we hear is the senate leaders are there. speaker boehner and minority leader nancy pelosi have yet to arrive, but now we're showing you live...
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. >> he'll be back on wednesday, in time to trade the fiscal cliff. all right. the deadline, of course, just hours away. if lawmakers wind up kicking the can down the road, they may want to come up with a way of saying so. that son the annual list of words to be ban issued. spoiler alert, trending and bucket list, not surprisingly the phrase that got the most nominations this year, fiscal cliff. so that brings us to this morning's squawk on the tweet. what other phrases should be banned and why. and remember, try and keep it clean. tweet us at squawk street. we've got your responses throughout the morning. fiscal cliff definitely has to go. >> i can't wait for hash tag to go away. >> we'll start hearing about the debt ceiling in two months. >> a ban on 2013's list. >> have a great new year. >> you as well. i have no special plans. i have a 3-month-old daughter -- >> that's very special. >> i'm prohibited from going anywhere. we have dinner reservations about 4:30 p.m., though. >> early birds. >> happy new year. >> same to you. >> presidents of americans for tax
. >> he'll be back on wednesday, in time to trade the fiscal cliff. all right. the deadline, of course, just hours away. if lawmakers wind up kicking the can down the road, they may want to come up with a way of saying so. that son the annual list of words to be ban issued. spoiler alert, trending and bucket list, not surprisingly the phrase that got the most nominations this year, fiscal cliff. so that brings us to this morning's squawk on the tweet. what other phrases should be banned...
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gregg: the fiscal cliff is not the only threat facing the u.s. economy right now. shipments of all kinds could actually be stuck on cargo ships if a longshoreman strike goes ahead as planned. the stakes for the recovery coming up. patti ann: high noon in those fiscal cliff negotiations. >> nothing have move forward in regards to our budget crisis unless speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell will go forward with our plan. speaker boehner is willing to negotiate, we have not heard a word from mitch mcconnell, and nothing is hang. patti ann: chris vanhollen joins us next. pwhrafp [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. . patti ann: fox news alert, potentially good news for the nation's housing market. pending home sales, which measure homes that are in contract and about to be sold rose 1.7% in november to
gregg: the fiscal cliff is not the only threat facing the u.s. economy right now. shipments of all kinds could actually be stuck on cargo ships if a longshoreman strike goes ahead as planned. the stakes for the recovery coming up. patti ann: high noon in those fiscal cliff negotiations. >> nothing have move forward in regards to our budget crisis unless speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell will go forward with our plan. speaker boehner is willing to negotiate, we have not heard a word from...
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now the fiscal cliff is coming and we're all going to shoot off the fiscal cliff like thelma and louise and we're holding hands with grover norquist and everybody's crying mostly because the lose in the sixty six thunderbird to the grand canyon but the republicans even though they lost the election even though they lost seats in the house and lost seats in the senate they still refused to negotiate and they're being held hostage by their far right wing and that hasn't changed and it might might change next year but i don't i don't think so and loose with what about the polarization let's say in france right now after the election because the sitting president is not very popular right now. it's complicated because you you get a kind of windshield wiper effect in france you get one we can which the president sporty and the president himself are doing extremely badly for instance you have the steel works. with mr lakshmi mittal the fact that basically the president and the prime minister the minister for industry all had different theories about what to do and how to try and keep jobs int
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. >> all right, jeff berardelli, thanks so much. you know about the fiscal cliff. here comes the container cliff. long shoremen plan to go on strike. that could cost american companies about billion dollars a day. anna werner is in houston at one of the ports that could be facing a walkout. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, rebecca and jeff. yes. there are two days to go before the strike deadline. they're at an impasse. at issue is pay for those working in the ports. but if it doesn't get resolved, the consequence could be a devastated impact on the economy. as the rest of the country focuses on the gridlock in houston, many are working overtime trying to get as many shipments out as they can before it comes to a standstill. the vice president of the national retail federation says a shutdown at the docks would have a ripple effect on the global economy. >> the ports are a primary piece of the global supply chain. if they're not operating efficiently, it slows down the system and hurts everything using the system. >> reporter: negotiations between the inter
. >> all right, jeff berardelli, thanks so much. you know about the fiscal cliff. here comes the container cliff. long shoremen plan to go on strike. that could cost american companies about billion dollars a day. anna werner is in houston at one of the ports that could be facing a walkout. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, rebecca and jeff. yes. there are two days to go before the strike deadline. they're at an impasse. at issue is pay for those working in the ports. but if...
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at the lower tax rates and buy back in in january depending on what happens with the fiscal cliff? >> yeah, i mean, i actually have a lot of clients where we are literally selling their portfolio, capturing their cost basis now and reestablishing a new cost basis because we know for a fact we'll see 3.8% next year just from the obamacare tax and other taxes and we're seeing people do that. you're not necessarily seeing it in the market because about, i think something close to very, very small percentage of the individuals affect the stock market. you're seeing that with individuals, but not reflected in the market as much because big institutions control the stock market. >> how many of your clients,percentage-wise, how many of your clients are doing that, cashing out this year to lock in rates at the lower rates? >> i would say half of them. i'm getting calls all the time. everybody is concerned about this and they're calling and saying, what do we do as a result of this and i'm giving the best advice. we've got nice gains, if we are thinking about selling the next two or three y
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all right. so not a banner year for retail. we have fiscal cliff and debt ceiling fears. that's driving that. how do you invest now? we are about to ask a top money manager. [ male announcer ] citi turns 200 this year. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ and the next great idea could be yours. well, if itmr. margin?margin. don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the last guy pitched more ball packers. but you... you consulted ups. you found a better way. that's logistics. that's margin. find out what else ups knows. i'll do that. you're on a roll. that's funny. i wasn't being funny, bob. i know. when the doctor told me that i could sm
all right. so not a banner year for retail. we have fiscal cliff and debt ceiling fears. that's driving that. how do you invest now? we are about to ask a top money manager. [ male announcer ] citi turns 200 this year. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to...
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he complains i've not delivered solutions to the fiscal cliff. he's in error. we all know that in july of this year we passed in the senate the relief that would give -- that it would give to middle class americans. that -- that passed the senate. now, we know the republicans have buried themselves in procedural roadblocks in everything we're trying to do out here and now they are saying, well, we can't do the 250 because it wasn't blue slipped, because it will be blue slipped. mr. president, how does the american people retook the that? there was a bill introduced by the ranking member of the ways and means committee in the house, sandy levin, that called for this legislation. the speaker was going to bring it up to kill it, but he couldn't kill it and then we moved to plan "b," the debacle of all debacles. it's the mother of all debacles. that was brought up in an effort to send us something. he couldn't even pass it among the republicans it was so absurd, he meaning the speaker, so it's very clear now, mr. president, that the speakers's number one goal is to
he complains i've not delivered solutions to the fiscal cliff. he's in error. we all know that in july of this year we passed in the senate the relief that would give -- that it would give to middle class americans. that -- that passed the senate. now, we know the republicans have buried themselves in procedural roadblocks in everything we're trying to do out here and now they are saying, well, we can't do the 250 because it wasn't blue slipped, because it will be blue slipped. mr. president,...
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going over the fiscal cliff is avoidable. there is still time to act. but president obama and 10 eric -- and harry reid believe it is one that can pass both houses. republicans agree. republicans have taken the step in the right direction. they pass legislation to replace this with responsible target it once and to bring our nation record debt under control. instead of considering the house plan to protect taxpayers democrats have spent months drawn partisan lines in the stands. the tax hike would only funds the government for eight days. americans deserve to know what the president proposes we do for the other 357 days a year. inaction should not be a problem. the problems facing our country are baked but not all that complicated. -- are big but not all that complicated. the next two days will begin to define the president's second term. he was elected to lead. >> we also got an update from oulaurie mcginley this morning. >> what kind of a deal did the president offered? what is new on the negotiations among and between the centers in the white house b
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dysfunction increases, the likelihood we will indeed go over the fiscal cliff. now to jackie and future now. >> that's right. you can see it on the chart. gold was lower this morning until majority leader harry reid took to the senate floor and says it looks likely we will go off the fiscal cliff. if we do go off, is buying gold your best bet? even with the cliff looming, gold has done badly over the past month. does that surprise you? >> it does. when you look at money printing going on in japan and the fiscal cliff here and debt ceiling limit and relatively weak dollar, gold should have a lot more shine to it. >> not like the possibility of going over the cliff is something new. if gold is getting a bit on cliff fears, why has it sold off in the last month? what's taken so long? >> funny you mention that, they read the headline, harry reid says, looks like we're going over the cliff, i don't think anybody thinks about that. but everybody hits the sell button because they think everybody's going to. there's plenty of reason to buy gold but whatever gold is deal
dysfunction increases, the likelihood we will indeed go over the fiscal cliff. now to jackie and future now. >> that's right. you can see it on the chart. gold was lower this morning until majority leader harry reid took to the senate floor and says it looks likely we will go off the fiscal cliff. if we do go off, is buying gold your best bet? even with the cliff looming, gold has done badly over the past month. does that surprise you? >> it does. when you look at money printing...
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cliff and look where we are right now. we can work it out after the election is out of the way, and here we are and we haven't worked it out. >> but if we go over the cliff, let's say it is fixed on january 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and can be fixed retroactively, right? >> right. >> this is a also bit of a drama everyone has whooped up? >> depends on how you look at it. you talk to some analysts and they say if you go over the cliff, markets will collapse easily and others say it's more of a fiscal slope you gradually begin to go. but the congressional budget office says as we work our way into 20 some -- 2013, they say aisling we will find ourselves in a recession. >> thank you, senator. >> thank you. >>. >>> they say if reports are right, if the benghazi reports are right, the state department maybe playing musical chairs. and donald trump is here. he said republicans have a nuclear weapon. what does he mean? he is here to tell you. and what do you think is the biggest story to hit the entertainment world this year? now it's your
cliff and look where we are right now. we can work it out after the election is out of the way, and here we are and we haven't worked it out. >> but if we go over the cliff, let's say it is fixed on january 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and can be fixed retroactively, right? >> right. >> this is a also bit of a drama everyone has whooped up? >> depends on how you look at it. you talk to some analysts and they say if you go over the cliff, markets will collapse easily and others say...
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right now, the country's attention and that of the media is on the fiscal cliff, and i understand that. economy of the nation and the world may be at stake here. i think that sooner or later, there will be some kind of an agreement. will we are talking about here is a fundamental change in the ruling, the possibility of a fundamental change in the way the senate does business peeping basically changing the rules of the senate from either 60 votes, sometimes 67, to 51 votes, which would make as no different than -- make us no different than the house of representatives, and of course would reduce us in many respects not to irrelevance in the minority party. here is the problem. on one side, the majority leader and the democrats are frustrated by their inability to move forward with legislation. every time there is an opposition to a motion to proceed, which takes days and then they proceed, and that has made the united states congress -- one of the reasons why the united states congress is judged the least productive congress since the year 1947. so, understandably the majority is frust
right now, the country's attention and that of the media is on the fiscal cliff, and i understand that. economy of the nation and the world may be at stake here. i think that sooner or later, there will be some kind of an agreement. will we are talking about here is a fundamental change in the ruling, the possibility of a fundamental change in the way the senate does business peeping basically changing the rules of the senate from either 60 votes, sometimes 67, to 51 votes, which would make as...
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." >> "street signs" begins right now. >>> there is a full cornucopia of cliffs on this fiscal friday. the president plans to pop another tax proposal on congress, but will it pass? the clack is ticking. latest ahead. >>> so what would a cliff jump really mean for american business? you will hear directly as we reconvene our exclusive small biz all-star panel. >>> plus, call it the retail hu "hunger games." three companies that may not survive. >>> predictions 2013. big calls for the new year, mandy. >>> bring it on. the s&p 500 is on track for a fifth straight decline. some of the hope does seem to be coming out of the market of late for a deal. of course, there could still be time. nonetheless, what we have seen is a drop of 1.3% so far this week. indead, the s&p's longest losing streak in three months. even the good news on home sales. not helping the three major averages which are on pace for their biggest weekly drop in six weeks. keep in mind, many investors are still away for the holiday shortened week. volume is light. that does tend to exacerbate market swings. let's get down
." >> "street signs" begins right now. >>> there is a full cornucopia of cliffs on this fiscal friday. the president plans to pop another tax proposal on congress, but will it pass? the clack is ticking. latest ahead. >>> so what would a cliff jump really mean for american business? you will hear directly as we reconvene our exclusive small biz all-star panel. >>> plus, call it the retail hu "hunger games." three companies that may not...
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right now you talk about the fiscal cliff and also hitting this potential debt ceiling limit as well. $16.4 trillion we could arrive at on new year's eve. >> juliet: yeah. let's hear what congressman tray goudie had to say about this. he was on greta the other night. >> i assure you that there will be a resolution either before the new year or shortly after the new year. that's the good news, that there will be a deal. the bad news for you and your viewers is that there won't o'clock a solution. it will be a panacea or some magical alickser, make us all feel a little better. but shortly after the new year, we're also going to get a letter from timothy geithner asking us to raise the debt ceiling for the 80th time in our country's history. so there will be a quote, move to avert the fiscal cliff. your viewers should demand more than a deal. they should demand a solution. >> juliet: kimberly guilfoyle had that. >> kelly: here is a problem with all that, and i hope the congressman is right, because you want to have a sense of optimism. the president talked about being optimistic. john bo
right now you talk about the fiscal cliff and also hitting this potential debt ceiling limit as well. $16.4 trillion we could arrive at on new year's eve. >> juliet: yeah. let's hear what congressman tray goudie had to say about this. he was on greta the other night. >> i assure you that there will be a resolution either before the new year or shortly after the new year. that's the good news, that there will be a deal. the bad news for you and your viewers is that there won't...
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>> well, a number of factors, right? so, obviously, the topic is the fiscal cliff. even if we get a resolution, if you look at larry mcdonald's bullet points a few minutes ago, those are pretty bearish in my opinion for equities. that ties in nicely to a key thesis we look at in technical analysis, which is the presidential cycle theory, which says that stocks move in four year cycles. the first and second years of a president's term is usually negative for stocks. so, we're setting ourselves up 2013, going in for what we think is going to be a down year for stocks. most of the strategists out there that i look at are pretty bullish. so, you've got most of the street very bullish. we're taking a contrarian view. we think you're going to get a bit of correction. you had a strong rally. we think you're going to correction some of that. >> what's a bit of a correction and which sectors will lead us lower? >> we talk eed about defense. we talked about retail. but if we look at what we have to kind of give back, if we look at the s&p 500, that hit a resistance level at 1
>> well, a number of factors, right? so, obviously, the topic is the fiscal cliff. even if we get a resolution, if you look at larry mcdonald's bullet points a few minutes ago, those are pretty bearish in my opinion for equities. that ties in nicely to a key thesis we look at in technical analysis, which is the presidential cycle theory, which says that stocks move in four year cycles. the first and second years of a president's term is usually negative for stocks. so, we're setting...
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last-ditch effort to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. >> getting a little more optimistic today. there's sometimes darkest before the dawn. >> right now we are at a stalemate because we haven't been willing to -- democrats haven't been willing to consider the issue of spend. >> there's some signs of possible flexibility but first of all, it would be helpful if the house of representatives came back. >> like it was a harvard law review just to show who is the smartest person in the room. we don't need the smartest person in the room. we immediate somebody to say all right, america, we need to deal with revenues. that's the bad news. we immediate to deal with the medicare fiscal cliff or you are not going on get your medical bills paid. >> remembering an american original. >> iraqis are dumb muff to attack her going to pay a terrible price. >> nicknamed stormin' norman for his ledgendary temper. he died thursday due to complications from pneumonia. >>> it is a year comes to a close, we look back at the amr moments that left us starstruck and speechless in 2012. >>> good day. i'm lu
last-ditch effort to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. >> getting a little more optimistic today. there's sometimes darkest before the dawn. >> right now we are at a stalemate because we haven't been willing to -- democrats haven't been willing to consider the issue of spend. >> there's some signs of possible flexibility but first of all, it would be helpful if the house of representatives came back. >> like it was a harvard law review just to show who is the smartest...
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coming up at the top of the hour, talks resume in washington as we near the edge of the "fiscal cliff." >> and a terrifying ordeal for shoppers in sacramento. witnesses fear the worst when a fight breaks out in a very busy mall. >> and we'll take you to one bay area "cool school" where students with special needs are learning how to rock. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >>> you start thinking the worst thing that could possibly happen. >> we hid behind the jewelry counter at macy's. >> some terrified shoppers flee a sacramento mall when a massive fight breaks out. >> senate lawmakers head back to washington trying to reach a deal on the "fiscal cliff." >> and you can put away the umbrellas for at least a day. we have this high pressure firmly in place over the bay area. checking the roadways so far, no major hot spots out there. here's a live look at th golden gate. we'll have much more traffic and weather coming up. >>> i'm michelle griego. >> i'm frank mallicoat. it's almost 5:00. we have some developing news in brentwood. a mysterious gas leak has prompted the evacuation of a number of homes there.
coming up at the top of the hour, talks resume in washington as we near the edge of the "fiscal cliff." >> and a terrifying ordeal for shoppers in sacramento. witnesses fear the worst when a fight breaks out in a very busy mall. >> and we'll take you to one bay area "cool school" where students with special needs are learning how to rock. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >>> you start thinking the worst thing that could possibly happen. >> we hid behind the jewelry...
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if we go off with the fiscal cliff, will we immediately go into a recession? >> i will go one step further, yes. i think we absolutely go into recession. that would knock between 2 and 4 percent off our gdp right away. this is the doomsday scenario, but that ten year rate now is 1.75ish. a lot of folks are calling it to 2, 2 1/2, maybe evenn3 because they are looking through rose colored lenses that i don't have. i think we could see that rate under 1% before it gets up to 2 1/2%. 2 to 4 percent blow to gdp puts us negative situation in terms of growth, that would be recessionary. at the same time i think you see the u.s. make a run to negative rates before you see that ten rate to 3%. that's as bad as it could be. david: thank you very much scott. >> thank you. david: protecting our schoolchildren has been a top priority, but there are a lot of opinions on how to do it. head of the nra wants armed guards in schools. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our schools to protect our children, then call me crazy. i will tell you what t
if we go off with the fiscal cliff, will we immediately go into a recession? >> i will go one step further, yes. i think we absolutely go into recession. that would knock between 2 and 4 percent off our gdp right away. this is the doomsday scenario, but that ten year rate now is 1.75ish. a lot of folks are calling it to 2, 2 1/2, maybe evenn3 because they are looking through rose colored lenses that i don't have. i think we could see that rate under 1% before it gets up to 2 1/2%. 2 to 4...
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re-election and now they are pushing to 2013, after the fiscal cliff hits and taxes go up and they get blamed. it is an odd way i to negotiate. to get one republican view on what will come next. earlier this evening, i had the privilege of speaking with tom coburn of oklahoma. >> thank you for being with us tonight. >> glad to be here ezra. >> the deal is dead, we are down to a small deal, a mini deal or going over the cliff straight, what is your reaction to this? >> i'm not sure it's true. just talking to my colleagues in the senate, i think the middle ground is well known by everyone and i think you could get something that is viewed by the rating agencies and the american public as a pretty good solution. so i think it's possible, i don't know that it will happen. it's unfortunate that we are waiting until this late in the hour to try to accomplish something. >> so then, what do you see as the middle ground, i know you are a member of the gang of 8. >> when you talk to colleagues what do they see as what can be salvaged here? >> let me answer the first part of that. none of us want
re-election and now they are pushing to 2013, after the fiscal cliff hits and taxes go up and they get blamed. it is an odd way i to negotiate. to get one republican view on what will come next. earlier this evening, i had the privilege of speaking with tom coburn of oklahoma. >> thank you for being with us tonight. >> glad to be here ezra. >> the deal is dead, we are down to a small deal, a mini deal or going over the cliff straight, what is your reaction to this? >>...
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cliff if no deal is reached. >> that's right. december 31st. a lot going on there. a lot of these budget calamities coming together all at once. economists already warning the fiscal cliff situation could cause another recession. now we're about to hit the nation's debt ceiling. secretary geithner in a letter to congress did go ton say, quote, he would take extraordinary measures and say these extraordinary measures can create approximately $200 billion in head room under the debt limit. under normal circumstances the amount of head room would last approximately two months. however, given the significant uncertainty that now exists with regard to unresolved tax and spending policies for 2013, it's not possible to predict the measure. because of the uncertainty of the fiscal cliff they don't know whether they have enough head room to make sure the nation's debt ceiling doesn't reach limit within two months. the bottom line is even if we deal with the fiscal cliff in the next few days and avert that. there is another crisis with th
cliff if no deal is reached. >> that's right. december 31st. a lot going on there. a lot of these budget calamities coming together all at once. economists already warning the fiscal cliff situation could cause another recession. now we're about to hit the nation's debt ceiling. secretary geithner in a letter to congress did go ton say, quote, he would take extraordinary measures and say these extraordinary measures can create approximately $200 billion in head room under the debt limit....
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had won re-election, and now they're pushing to to 13, after the fiscal cliff hits and they get blamed. it is an odd way to negotiate. to get one republican view on what will come next year, early this evening, shortly after the president's press conference, i had the privilege to speaking to republican senator tom coburn of oklahoma. senator, thank you so much for being here tonight. >> glad to be with you, ezra. >> it so seems to me the news of the day is the big deal is dead, completely dead, and we are down to either a small down, a mini deal, or going after the cliff straight. what is your reaction to this? >> i don't -- you know, i'm not sure that's true. just talking to my colleagues in the senate, i think the middle ground is pretty well known by everybody, and i think you could still get something that would be viewed by the ratings agencies as well as the american public as a pretty good solution. so i think it's possible. i don't know that that will happen. it's unfortunate that we're waiting until this late in the hour to try to accomplish something. >> so, then, what do yo
had won re-election, and now they're pushing to to 13, after the fiscal cliff hits and they get blamed. it is an odd way to negotiate. to get one republican view on what will come next year, early this evening, shortly after the president's press conference, i had the privilege to speaking to republican senator tom coburn of oklahoma. senator, thank you so much for being here tonight. >> glad to be with you, ezra. >> it so seems to me the news of the day is the big deal is dead,...
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it really has nothing to too with the fiscal cliff. i'm looking now to congress and say, pass the amt patch today. >> gretchen: all right. we'll see if they're listening to marty, a cpa who is a little nutsoutrig to get everything done before year's end. >> thank you very much. >> gretchen: georgetown cup cakes secret ingredient this new year, champagne? we're showing you how it make the party even sweeter with sophie. yep, she's just one part of the team with our others and she's here hey! did you know that honey nut cheerios has oats that can help lower cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! wow. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? be happy. be healthy. >> gretchen: welcome back. wicked weather like this wreaking havoc on airports across the country. what can travelers expect? wfxt's katherine is live at logan international airport with the latest op the travel nightmare out of boston. good morning. >> good morning, gretchen. the sun is shining on us here in boston. but fl
it really has nothing to too with the fiscal cliff. i'm looking now to congress and say, pass the amt patch today. >> gretchen: all right. we'll see if they're listening to marty, a cpa who is a little nutsoutrig to get everything done before year's end. >> thank you very much. >> gretchen: georgetown cup cakes secret ingredient this new year, champagne? we're showing you how it make the party even sweeter with sophie. yep, she's just one part of the team with our others and...
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expecting anything, all about the fiscal cliff or what's the mood of the market? >> i'm sorry. >> it's a shame that's all we're talking about right now because there are some things we could probably focus on. >> like what? >> again, it's corporate. it's large corporations. no one is talking about small caps right now. generally in january they probably have a pretty good mood. everybody is talking about dividend-paying stocks, large caps, where there's liquidity, can get in and get out and it all ties back to the fiscal cliff. that's all we're talking about and why do anything until then? >> rick has been waiting all y day. >> whether we're sick of it or not, it has to be resolved. >> meantime, counting down, 50 minutes until the closing bell. the dow was positive when we started the show. let's call it the "street signs" glow. we've gone back into the negative territory slightly. >> see what we can do here in the last hour of the trade. if you don't think people are feel the effects of the fiscal cliff, think again. we look at very real effects of the cliff on h
expecting anything, all about the fiscal cliff or what's the mood of the market? >> i'm sorry. >> it's a shame that's all we're talking about right now because there are some things we could probably focus on. >> like what? >> again, it's corporate. it's large corporations. no one is talking about small caps right now. generally in january they probably have a pretty good mood. everybody is talking about dividend-paying stocks, large caps, where there's liquidity, can...
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cliff overall. >> we're cnbc first in business worldwide. if we get any more details out of washington right now, we'll bring them to you. stick around. to the best vacation spot on earth. (all) the gulf! it doesn't matter which of our great states folks visit. mississippi, alabama, louisiana or florida, they're gonna love it. shaul, your alabama hospitality is incredible. thanks, karen. love your mississippi outdoors. i vote for your florida beaches, dawn. bill, this louisiana seafood is delicious. we're having such a great year on the gulf, we've decided to put aside our rivalry. now is the perfect time to visit anyone of our states. the beaches and waters couldn't be more beautiful. take a boat ride, go fishing or just lay in the sun. we've got coastline to explore and wildlife to photograph. and there's world class dining with our world famous seafood. so for a great vacation this year, come to the gulf. its all fabulous but i give florida the edge. right after mississippi. you mean alabama. say louisiana or there's no dessert. this invi
cliff overall. >> we're cnbc first in business worldwide. if we get any more details out of washington right now, we'll bring them to you. stick around. to the best vacation spot on earth. (all) the gulf! it doesn't matter which of our great states folks visit. mississippi, alabama, louisiana or florida, they're gonna love it. shaul, your alabama hospitality is incredible. thanks, karen. love your mississippi outdoors. i vote for your florida beaches, dawn. bill, this louisiana seafood is...
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right now, congress scrambling to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff before tuesday's deadline president the senate and house are convening while senate negotiators work at a plan to prevent massive spending cuts and tax hikes from kicking in january 1st. president obama appeared today on nbc's "meet the press" and said the cuts in spending need to be fairly distributed. >> what i'm not willing to do is to have the entire burden of deficit reduction rest on the shoulders of seniors making students pay a higher student loan rates, ruining our capacity to invest in things like basic research that help our economy grow. >> in news overseas the bodies of the dead are being carried away in syria today. at least 397 people were killed saturday. that is the deadliest day so far in the 21-month long civil war. another 52 died today. the joint u.n. arab league envoy said the situation is rapidly deteriorating but that a solution is still possible. >>> in massachusetts boston's mayor lifted a snow emergency a little earlier today. more than a foot of snow fell on several towns across that state ov
right now, congress scrambling to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff before tuesday's deadline president the senate and house are convening while senate negotiators work at a plan to prevent massive spending cuts and tax hikes from kicking in january 1st. president obama appeared today on nbc's "meet the press" and said the cuts in spending need to be fairly distributed. >> what i'm not willing to do is to have the entire burden of deficit reduction rest on the shoulders of...
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if reducing the deficit was what the economy needed we could go right off the cliff and leave it there. you can see it in this graph, that line going down. that is the fiscal cliff, we went over our deficit problems, gone baby, totally, totally gone. one thing the fear of the fiscal cliff shows by the way, in the fox hole, everyone's a kinsian. everyone agrees. that is number one. too much austerity way too quickly. president obama is not asking for that much in taxes. it's worth getting a bit of perspective in here. you'll be shocked to know, we got a graph for that. here's what happens if we go over the cliff. you get more than $5 trillion in tax increases off the bat. and now here's what happens if we pass the sainted simpson bowles plan. you've heard of the plan. they have 2.6 trillion in tax increases. president obama's latest offer to john boehner has 1.2 trillion in taxes. that is half as much, less than half than simpson bowles, and less than a quarter of what is in -- simply going over the fiscal cliff. i think the tax increases are too little. they are what they are. and it's
if reducing the deficit was what the economy needed we could go right off the cliff and leave it there. you can see it in this graph, that line going down. that is the fiscal cliff, we went over our deficit problems, gone baby, totally, totally gone. one thing the fear of the fiscal cliff shows by the way, in the fox hole, everyone's a kinsian. everyone agrees. that is number one. too much austerity way too quickly. president obama is not asking for that much in taxes. it's worth getting a bit...
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for the house. >> they want that vote on the fiscal cliff. still the employee of the month and thank you so much. next, breaking with boehner. a month ago, oklahoma congressman tom cole endorsed compromising and going-over the fiscal cliff. what's he saying now? the minority report, we will get the view from the other side of the aisle with john yarmouth. a look ahead at the president's schedule. you are watching t"the daily rundown" on msnbc. i love the holidays. and with my bankamericard cash rewards credit card, i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash back everywhere, every time. 2% on groceries. 3% on gas. automatically. no hoops to jump through. that's 1% back on... [ toy robot sounds ] 2% on pumpkin pie. and apple. 3% back on 4 trips to the airport. it's as easy as... -[ man ] 1... -[ woman ] 2... [ woman ] 3. [ male announcer ] the bankamericard cash rewards card. apply online or at a bank of america near you. [ male announcer ] the bankamericard cash rewards card. is bigger than we think ... sometimelike the flu.fer from with aches, feve
for the house. >> they want that vote on the fiscal cliff. still the employee of the month and thank you so much. next, breaking with boehner. a month ago, oklahoma congressman tom cole endorsed compromising and going-over the fiscal cliff. what's he saying now? the minority report, we will get the view from the other side of the aisle with john yarmouth. a look ahead at the president's schedule. you are watching t"the daily rundown" on msnbc. i love the holidays. and with my...
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. >>> increased fears this morning about running off the fiscal cliff. the deadline for preventing tax hikes is one week today. it is likely that the president and congress will work right to new year's ever. >>> overseas now, where an american has been killed by an afghan policewoman. there have been similar insider attacks, but this is the first time a female security officer has been involved. >>> the nra is not backing away from the call for armed officers in schools. congressman chris murphy, whose district includes newtown calls the stance tone deaf and revolting. >>> a rel christmas gift, getting to where you're going on time today. storms are causing major trouble. not only trying to get through snow-covered roads. rain and wind are grounding flights in warmer parts of the country as well. >>> finally, christmas a good time to do star-gazing. jupiter and the moon will be close together in the sky and very bright. you'll be able to see them even in urban areas. the star of bethlehem may have been a similar astronomical event. you have to look to t
. >>> increased fears this morning about running off the fiscal cliff. the deadline for preventing tax hikes is one week today. it is likely that the president and congress will work right to new year's ever. >>> overseas now, where an american has been killed by an afghan policewoman. there have been similar insider attacks, but this is the first time a female security officer has been involved. >>> the nra is not backing away from the call for armed officers in...
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right? i mean, you're waiting to see what happens with this fiscal cliff? >> i am. i tell you, i think that the christmas gift people are getting right now is to sell above 13,000. we were surprised we're not getting a deal. i'm surprised the market's as firm as it is and it is very easy to overthink this. well, must be firm. the bulls are strong. hey, we go higher. i think that's not the read at all. i think the initial reaction we got when they sent the house of representatives home on thursday night is what we're going to see when they don't get a deal done to the end of the year. i think there is no way. >> you think the market has it wrong here by being this high. >> i do. i think ultimately we're being tropical depression up by the 90 billion a month in fed liquidity but i think that comes home to roost probably as we get closer to the end of the year. the only way we have a shot to get a deal at the end of the year or maybe even early in january is if we have market pressure. right now the market is supplying no pressure to these politicians. so there is no r
right? i mean, you're waiting to see what happens with this fiscal cliff? >> i am. i tell you, i think that the christmas gift people are getting right now is to sell above 13,000. we were surprised we're not getting a deal. i'm surprised the market's as firm as it is and it is very easy to overthink this. well, must be firm. the bulls are strong. hey, we go higher. i think that's not the read at all. i think the initial reaction we got when they sent the house of representatives home on...
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fiscal conservatives say a smaller stop gap measure to avoid the cliff won't work. >> if we, in fact, do not use this period of time before right now, deal with the bigger issue and entitlements, if we just continue to kick the can down the road. the market will respond in a more permanent and negative way to our inaction. >> one thing leading republicans and democrats seem to agree on is time is running short. veteran senate democrat says there is a very small window to get something done. >> if we don't have a deal within the next 24 hours, the question is where do you buy a pair of shoes? the closer we get to the end the less likely you will compress agreement in place that will have it pass. >> this struggle over the future of the country some suggest is not that different than what many americans face in their daily lives. >> this is no different than marriage. a lot of marriages fail because they fight over money. that i get heavily in debt and they fight over money issues. we as a nation are right now fighting over money because we are so heavily in debt. >> though in this case
fiscal conservatives say a smaller stop gap measure to avoid the cliff won't work. >> if we, in fact, do not use this period of time before right now, deal with the bigger issue and entitlements, if we just continue to kick the can down the road. the market will respond in a more permanent and negative way to our inaction. >> one thing leading republicans and democrats seem to agree on is time is running short. veteran senate democrat says there is a very small window to get...
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. >>> and there are increased fears this morning about running off the fiscal cliff. the deadline for preventing tax hikes and government spending cuts is just one week from today. the president and congress return to washington later this week. it's likely they'll work right to new year's eve. one possibility is striking a deal on taxes but leaving the spending for later. >>> overseas now, where an american has been killed by an afghan policewoman. the attack took place at police head quarters in kabul. where there have been similar insider attacks, this is the first time a female security officer has been involved. >>> the nra is not backing away from its call for armed officers in our nation's schools. and the group vows to fight any effort by congress to strengthen gun control laws. now congressman chris murphy, whose district includes newtown, calls the stance "tone deaf and revolting." >>> a real christmas gift, it would be getting to where you're going on time today. storms are causing major travel trouble throughout the nation. it's not only trying to get thro
. >>> and there are increased fears this morning about running off the fiscal cliff. the deadline for preventing tax hikes and government spending cuts is just one week from today. the president and congress return to washington later this week. it's likely they'll work right to new year's eve. one possibility is striking a deal on taxes but leaving the spending for later. >>> overseas now, where an american has been killed by an afghan policewoman. the attack took place at...
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cliff, right? come back to work and let a majority in the house, republicans and democrats, work their will. let democracy work to protect the middle class. it is essential we pass the extension of unemployment insurance. that is why the president has been very clear on that since day one that it should be a part of any plan. these are people who are out of work through no fault of their own. they are looking for jobs in what is still a tough economy and providing unemployment benefits provide more security for those americans and their families, but it is good for everyone else also. those people have a little bit more money in their pockets to spend on goods and services to support their family which is good for everyone else. when they are spending money, businesses can sell more goods and services and we have some small business representatives here who know very well that the more people have money in their pockets, the more customers they have with money, the more they can sell their goods an
cliff, right? come back to work and let a majority in the house, republicans and democrats, work their will. let democracy work to protect the middle class. it is essential we pass the extension of unemployment insurance. that is why the president has been very clear on that since day one that it should be a part of any plan. these are people who are out of work through no fault of their own. they are looking for jobs in what is still a tough economy and providing unemployment benefits provide...
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. >> all right, jeff, thanks so much. >>> you know about the fiscal cliff. here comes the container cliff. dockworkers threaten to go on strike this sunday at more than a dozen major seaports from texas to massachusetts, and that could cost american companies about $1 billion a day. ana anna werner good morning. >> reporter: good morning. there are only two days left after a potential strike and negotiations between the longshoremen longshoremen's union and shipping companies are at an impasse. at issue here is pay for those working at the ports, but if the issue isn't resolved the consequences could be a devastating impact on the economy. as the rest of the country focuses on the political gridlock in washington workers at the port of houston are working overtime trying to get as many shipments in and out as they can before a threatened strike brings the port to a standstill. >> sitting here right now we fully expect there will be some shutdown or strike at the end of the day. >> reporter: jon gold vice president of the national retail federation says a shu
. >> all right, jeff, thanks so much. >>> you know about the fiscal cliff. here comes the container cliff. dockworkers threaten to go on strike this sunday at more than a dozen major seaports from texas to massachusetts, and that could cost american companies about $1 billion a day. ana anna werner good morning. >> reporter: good morning. there are only two days left after a potential strike and negotiations between the longshoremen longshoremen's union and shipping...
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right now with the fiscal cliff, i am currently unemployed and i am concerned about the fiscal cliff. i am on a federal extension. i do not know if i'm going to get a paycheck to be able to pay my mortgage in january. two million people are set to lose their federal extensions in january and unemployment rate has come down due to attrition. people are not being counted. once you stop drawing benefits, you are counted as being unemployed. if you force two million people at once into the job market with the fraudulent unemployment numbers, how are these people going to get back to work? i was laid off in 2009 and i've had three different jobs. the type of employment being offered is often part-time work and it is a series of stringing together reemployment. you never really get back to work. it takes longer than six months to get back to work. you're going to be laid off again within six to eight months. maybe they did not extend it again after 2013 or after 2012. you get back to work after being employed temporarily. they continually whittled down the beaks. it is pretty tough. had thr
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now, 48 hours before the fiscal cliff goes over, is that really enough time to get legislation passed, if there's a real deal on the table? >> reporter: is it enough time? probably. if there's really something that is going to pass the senate, and this is a big if, as jessica said, the oddsmakers are definitely seeing the fiscal cliff happening, us going over the fiscal cliff, but if senate does pass something, that would be the next move, then the house could pretty easily take it up and pass it on sunday night or monday morning, on the actual day of december 31st. i think at this point, it's more of a question of optics, and democrats were definitely trying to take advantage today of the fact that the house republican -- the republican-led house, rather, is not here and won't be here until sunday. we all know that what happens here in washington, is that nothing really happens until they're really up against the deadline. that's why i'm also told by some democrats who really know what the process is going to be, if there is one, that they don't even see this potentially happening, i
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on the fiscal cliff talks. right now staff discussions underway on the senate side trying to steer the country away from this fiscal cliff. >> dave: peter doocy is going to join us live from washington with the latest. peter from what we understand the house is initially left out of the discussion. so, something theoretically emerges from the senate and it's all on john boehner to find republican votes, is that where we are? >> reporter: where we are, we were told a few minutes ago discussions a way around the fiscal cliff at the staff level in the senate has begun for the day, only on the senate side. there's not much going on right now with the house of representatives. we heard yesterday though from some officials in the obama administration that senator mitch mcconnell, the senator minority leader has been working hard behind the scene, figuring how to get a deal done before monday at midnight and hearing talk in the senate that they want to tweak the obama plan and raise the threshold who the president say
on the fiscal cliff talks. right now staff discussions underway on the senate side trying to steer the country away from this fiscal cliff. >> dave: peter doocy is going to join us live from washington with the latest. peter from what we understand the house is initially left out of the discussion. so, something theoretically emerges from the senate and it's all on john boehner to find republican votes, is that where we are? >> reporter: where we are, we were told a few minutes ago...
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there's no natural segue for the fiscal cliff. come on back, clayton. >> juliet: it's fine. >> dave: we need your help to avert the fiscal cliff. congress back in session today and we understand, be careful, get your hazmat suit out. >> juliet: stop that now, come on. >> dave: we understand there's about a three o'clock deadline to present this new deal. we hear there may be some sort of a new deal coming out of the senate, when it comes to mitch mcconnell and harry reid presenting something, we don't know what, probably some sort of threshold around 4 or $500,000. >> and look on the table, the president sequestration and no one was going to have to deal with, they were going to get their act together months ago and now we're talking sequestration with two days left and 3 p.m., only hours left. >> dave: we'll have the latest with chris wallace in a couple of minutes. it's interesting as we near this fiscal cliff, the president signed an executive order that would give members of congress a raise, which is raise ago few eyebrows. >
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that is right up there. and i get that one. >> yeah, well, fiscal cliff. it involves economics, it involves politics. a lot of people think it's going to increase the deficit, which it isn't. a lot of people are worried it's going to decrease the deficit. so a lot of complicated issues and political issues. and we hear it all of the time. >> let's talk about lake superior state university and how this list compiling all began. >> it was a bet new year's eve, 1976. >> long ago. >> yep. and they discussed how many words and phrases are overused too often. and the originator of this list back in 1976 went back and drew up a list of five words to submit to upi, united press international. and the whole thing took off from there, and we take nominations from all over the world. whatever floats to the top gets to our list. >> and is i was going to ask how that happened. people can, what, make suggestions, somehow contact your university and say here's a word i want banished. >> lssubanished. do a search and it will get you right to our page. and there is still t
that is right up there. and i get that one. >> yeah, well, fiscal cliff. it involves economics, it involves politics. a lot of people think it's going to increase the deficit, which it isn't. a lot of people are worried it's going to decrease the deficit. so a lot of complicated issues and political issues. and we hear it all of the time. >> let's talk about lake superior state university and how this list compiling all began. >> it was a bet new year's eve, 1976. >>...